For Nintendo Switch on the Nintendo Switch, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Hollow knight is nothing like dark souls". Hollow Soldier Description. If you had a hard time with the Mantis Lords, just wait til you attempt the fucking last round in the Arena. Mantis lords are one of the harder bosses for a lot of people, so don't give up skeleton! If you use up all your stamina spamming the boss, you won't be able to roll away when the boss turns around to smoosh you. It's a game of caution and planning. It's different for everyone i reckon. I haven't found anything as crazy hard as the DLCs of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3, but I haven't been to the Colosseum or the White Palace yet, so that feeling might change. - Hollow Knight for me - That moment in What remains of Edith Finch Hades is awesome but isn't the Binding of isaac Celeste was too hard for me . A game doesnt need to be hard to be good; the great example on this game is the hollow kmight; hes not hard, but its not intended to be hard, that boss fight is intended to be emotional, a knight that sacrificed for the kingdom and now is stabbing himself … To compare specific examples, one of the hardest bosses in DS3 is the Dancer. The world of Dark Souls 3 is littered with hollow enemies and hollow bosses which makes the Hollowslayer Greatsword a powerful weapon to have on hand. The great part about this game is how even if you're having trouble with one particular section, the world is so large and there's so many things to do and find that will help make you stronger. I definitely learned their pattern and was able to beat them. Artist Creates Amazing Dark Souls and Hollow Knight Mashup. Edit: Apparently this was patched or I simply misunderstood it from the wiki, because I just got my Geo back from the Shade that was still in the game. I’m not sure how factor in something like the path of pain however, which is extremely difficult. Greatsword used for a lifetime by a masked knight. I beat this game with moderate effort but I can't even get through the first dark souls 3 boss. Hollow Knight is a 2D adventure/ Metroidvania game for PC, Mac, Linux, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One! I think died on every boss at least once though. I'm used to FPS for the most part. Every time the player dies, their hollowing stat will increase by an amount equal to the Dark Sigils in their inventory. While I did die (I think twice) for the Mantis Lords. Having l… I would say, having beat both, you’d be happy with either in terms of difficulty, Beat all of the dark souls games + bloodborne and hollow knight. Second phase she basically turns into a spinning top of death and you have to be able to spot her telegraphs and react to them on pure reflex or she'll turn you into a finely cut zombie salami in no time. btw: Does a controller really make that much of a difference in response factor for the game? Though you can't do that now. Trial of Fool and White palace are pretty painful, there is another boss that's also pretty damn hard, but not sure if you have fought it yet so I won't spoil stuff. By the time the Chosen Undead encounters him, Artorias is shown to have already been corrupted by the Abyss with his armor looking putrefied, oozing an aura of darkness. There is nothing wrong with seeking help to increase your enjoyment of the game. I'm at end game now, and some bosses you can literally just spam the heck out of them with certain charms. First phase she pretty much just walks around the arena and occasionally tries to cut you in half/impale/explode you. I'm a casual soulsborne-type player(only played vanilla Dark Souls and Bloodborne to completion. Beat everything in ds 1-3 can’t beat the final pantheon. I think the game is generally easier than dark souls. I didn't struggle at all really until i got to the end of the game where i had to use multiple tries per boss. Dark Souls is definitely harder. Anyone else experienced this? I'm sure it also has to do with DS being a 3D environment vs. HK being 2D, and therefore being easier to keep track of everything that's going on. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the HollowKnight community. It would definitely be a nightmare to try and fight the harder bosses of Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 without getting hit. I just started playing Salt & Sanctuary and that has been much closer to Dark Souls in difficultly (and style) so far. Bosh. Remnants of Lothric's army roam the dusty parapets of the now-dilapidated kingdom, whose once stoic ramparts endured battles between unearthly beasts, giants and kings. I lost 9000 Geo because I rage quit after my 14th attempt on her in Kingdom's Edge, and forgot that if your Shade has all your Geo, you lose it. I had much more trouble with the Souls games my first times through. are harder than DS, though that's mainly because they're so much longer than boss fights that you have way more opportunities to mess up. I would say, having beat both, you’d be happy with either in terms of difficulty I think there's a problem with charms as well, a good number of them seem quite useless or too niche to be of any real use. He possesses a greatsword that has also been consumed, yet is still far from ineffective. The person you go back in town and talk to to buy the item that updates your map is … Objectively, healing is quicker and more forgiving in Dark Souls than in Hollow Knight, and, unlike Hollow Knight, Dark Souls also gives you I-frames on every roll, from the beginning of the game. His crippled arm is likely the result of Artorias halting the spread from devouring his wolf companion by means of a now missing shield. Hollow Thieves are fast and deadly enemies despite their low health. 'Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice' is a hard game, but is it harder than 'Dark Souls' and 'Bloodborne'? Common consensus? In general i think i prefer Hollow Knight, it's level creation is more creative, at least i think they take full advantage of the 2D platform. Or do I just suck at platformers or something. I have minimal platforming game experience, so the dodging experience is quite different. For me, I found the Mantis Lords super hard when I had the basic nail, so I didn't come back to them until i had upgraded my nail like 2-3 times. A complete slap in the face with a hand dirty with bullshit. It’s still on if my top from the year. Menu Menu. SUBSCRIBE http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_channel=Astoroth Twitter https://twitter.com/Astoroth I think the stamina meter is a big reason why Souls is harder too, since it sort of caps the number of things you can do in a short period of time. Hollow Knight is way harder for me because I'm so bad at the platforming. The Taurus Demon and the area leading up to it killed me more times than anything in Hollow Knight. Dark … Very different games. Hollowslayer Greatsword is a Weapon in Dark Souls 3. Trending. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Register. Dark Souls is a 3D RPG. EtcetEra Hangouts. Might just be 2D rust on your part, the only hard part i had with bosses is that they'd move to where i was wanting to move so i would keep taking contact damage, this, main thing that gets me on mantis lords is jumping into their spinny circle things because of my constant urge to move around. The game gets comparable to Dark Souls in difficulty during its later stages, with the harder bosses and platforming challenges, but for most of it it's quite a bit easier imo. Stick it out and keep playing, its worth persevering through the gauntlet. The lack of I-frames is probably what gave me the most difficulty in the beginning (I played Dark Souls first)- it means dodging attacks requires more precision. Lost interest in Nioh after NG.). Kinda depends on what you are good at. Not to mention, Dark Souls is significantly easier if you play a non-melee character. I am only at the mantis lords boss with 15 hours played (yeah, haha) and no boss in any souls game has even come close to the difficulty of the boss I have just beat, Hornet. Member. Hollowing does not occur until the Ashen One has acquired at least one Dark Sigil. Assuming you have all the gear the game intends when you fight them, you can easily Shade Cloak through them whenever they're about to swing, and Quick Slash/Steady Body them ruthlessly, pausing only to Shade Cloak through them again whenever they start to swing/spin. I think part of it is that DS bosses just have more moves that you have to learn. This 2D adventure game has a … The game gets comparable to Dark Souls in difficulty during its later stages, with the harder bosses and platforming challenges, but for most of it it's quite a bit easier imo. Hollow Thieves, also known as Hollow or Undead Assassins arean enemy type in Dark Souls. In reality it is a 2d souls-like and … HK is more of a platformer so if you’re great with 2d navigation and platforming then HK, while difficult, will prove to be a little easier. Skill: Stance Must've used about 70 tries on her. 1 Location 2 Strategy 3 Enemy Information 3.1 Characteristics 3.2 Attacks 3.3 Defenses 3.4 Drops 4 Trivia 5 Gallery Encountered in the Lower Undead Burg. Have yet to play Hades. Saying that DS is easier than Hollow Knight is a cruel, stupid joke to me. Hollow Knight is a flawed gem in that it does what it sets out to do incredibly well, but there are just enough baffling design decisions that made me sour on the experience overall. I enjoy the basic gameplay of Hollow Knight but dying 5,000 times is kinda starting to piss me off and make me not want to play anymore. They require very different skills of the player. Well, for most of the game you don't have any i-frames, which puts you out of your element a little after Dark Souls. Jan 27, 2021 #271 All those games are great. Soulsbourne are definitely much tougher than hollow knight. It’s a little like asking if Tetris is harder than Pong. In truth, little remains of this mighty force; time unforgiving, their swords now rusty and their silhouettes hardly as menacing as in … I would say that doing every boss on Radiant is probably as or more demanding than any “in game” challenge in Soulsborne, meaning that beating the bosses without getting hit is a feature written into Hollow Knight. Dark Souls skill doesn't translate particularly well into 2D platformer skill, does it? Their attacks include the use of Throwing Knives and the … I'm on same boat with this, but I wouldn't say that HK is much harder than Dark Souls. Dark souls 1 punishes you for going fast. One thing I'll add, the difficulty in Hollow Knight is similar to Souls - it exists in spades, but it is secondary to the atmosphere, world building, exploration and super tight combat. I don't think the platforming is too difficult either. There’s also a boss run in the new DLC that’s tough as well. You're rarely all that challenged or threatened during the levels in Hollow Knight, it's mostly the tougher boss battles that can push you, whereas in Dark Souls you're generally under serious threat of dying at almost any time - whether it be by instant death falls, traps or enemies. When players die, they lose their Humanity, and with it some gameplay mechanics change. Source: Twitter - … As a person that has never played Dark Souls before I would like to know from anyone that has played both which of the two games is considered harder. Unless you are a seasoned Metroidvania or classic 80s gamer, you'll find that Hollow Knight is way harder than Dark Souls. Hollow Knight is a 2D Metroidvania. Jan 27, 2021 #272 Tried them all Never beat Cuphead, it was too hard … The entire game took me about 20 hours to beat blind with 87% completion then I went back and finished the rest of the missing things in about another 5. Enemies in this state are known as Hollows. Press FOCUS/CAST or QUICK CAST while holding DOWN to cause the For example, I died like 30 times to Darkeater Midir on my first play through, but by the 2nd I could beat him without taking a single hit since I had completely​ mastered his entire moveset. Hollow Soldier is an Enemy in Dark Souls 3. I am actually the opposite, I've beaten every Souls game but I thought Hollow Knight was way easier than everyone makes it seem. Both were melee playthroughs, Guess this kind of made me used to slower combat, very beefy but considered attacks, HK is definetely not that. Apples to Orange, my friend. Log in. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. YouTube artists create crossover art of two different games that share remarkable similarities in art style: Dark Souls and Hollow Knight. (Maybe even comparing the hardest challenges of each game to each other), I'd say that Hollow knight is much easier than dark souls. Yeah it can be pretty hard. Menu Hide Images. I love playing hard/difficult games and having never played a metroidvania before I was really interested in playing hollow knight. (Pantheon of knight is pretty hard too). When I was playing Hollow Knight, I looked up info on how to find the pale ore b/c I needed to increase my damage output to better help me deal with hard bosses. Not asking which is a better game (not going to compare a triple-A game with an indie game) just which is more challenging when it comes to how much skill you need to beat them. The mantis kings and Hornet remind me a lot of the better dark souls bosses from the DLC in terms of how you learn to deal with them. Hollow Knight just is miles better . Build Name: The Hollow Knight; Build Level: 63-120; Build Focus: PvE; Build Main Stat: Luck and Dex; Link to Dark Souls 3 Calculator; Build Equipment. I love all the Soulsborne games and got the plat for Bloodborne but in Hollow Knight I had to stop playing because I couldn't do the platforming to get into The City of Tears. Right Hand: Anri's Straight Sword +5 // Great Scythe +10 with Hollow infustion; Left Hand: Shield or weapon of choice (perfeably one that can be infused); Armor: Most Mid tier … Like literally, you don't even have to dodge, just keep attacking. The Ashen O… Being able to dodge in a 3D space is a hell of a lot more freeing that only being able to dodge up, down, left and right. Hollow Knight's gameplay is just as gripping as anything in Dark Souls– if not more so– but there are plenty of Soulslikes that outdo the 2017 indie. Comparing the new shinobi action game with its RPG predecessors reveal a number of crucial differences. Dropped by Hollow Soldiers. Hollowing is a bit different in Dark Souls IIIcompared to the previous games. Quick Jump Gaming Forum Gaming Hangouts EtcetEra Forum EtcetEra Hangouts Trending Threads Latest Threads Watched threads. Dark Souls 3 is available now on PS4, Xbox One, and PC, while Hollow Knight is available on PS4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, PC, Mac, and Linux. Hollow State in Dark Souls. For Nintendo Switch on the Nintendo Switch, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Dark Souls or Hollow Knight". jungomitis. Learning to deal with attacks that have a major commitment is the main learning curve of Dark Souls. Steven Strom - … Compare Dancer to the Watcher Knights, who are one of HK's harder bosses. The hardest Dark Souls will get revolves around it’s bosses and some select levels with mechanics aimed at making the experience harder. Member. Hollow knight on the other hand is fast and furious. 2D games are often harder for me to adapt and master, so even easier titles like Metroid: Zero Mission can kick my butt around a fair bit. That being said, what makes me appreciate HK most is that it really isn't a Metroidvania and shouldn't be compared to Super Metroid and the Igavanias. I've locked down around 180~ hours into Dark Souls 3 and 30 hours in Hollow Knight, Dark Souls beats it for difficulty by a mile but that's only for the fact that Hollow Knights' gameplay clicked with me after a good 5 hours of tinkering with the engine. Precise platforming and fast reaction combat. However that’s for my first time, I could nearly beat Radiant Grimm now, yet Orphan of Kos would still be seriously difficult. It's not a hard game. However the Pantheon of hallownest is much Harder than anything Souls throws at you, in my opinion. If we are talking just about Dark Souls 1, then yes, I do agree that Hollow Knight is much harder, but that is partly because Dark Souls 1 is nowhere near as hard as the reputation implies. Harbors the fears that lurk within the mind of Hollows, and is particularly effective against them. Celeste is hard but always makes you want to try again and the checkpoints are fair. DS1 is impossible to me. No enemies. I would say that I personally found the Souls series to be harder due to level design and bosses. Dark Souls 1 is nowhere near as hard as its reputation implies, so being harder than that isn't actually as meaningful as it might sound. Requires 200 souls per upgrade. I like the jumping puzzles like the ones in White Palace and the arena were there's 3 trials. I've completed all of the Dark Souls games, and have about 300 hours in Dark Souls 3 alone. Kinda shit design to be honest, with the small crammed room and all. It deals 145 base damage and receives a 20% bonus to damage when facing hollow enemies, which are everywhere. Doing so in Soulsborne would be a personal challenge, I’m not sure if it’s fair or not to compare those two if it’s not an intended in game feature in the Soulsborne games where it is in Hollow Knight. Haha, taurus demon was defo one of the hardest bosses for me in ds1. Cuphead and Hollow Knight are too hard and unforgiving. SOUL is used to cast damage-dealing Spells or to Focus, which heals the New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the HollowKnight community. Dark Souls / Bloodborne is consistently more difficult than Hollow Knight, but HK does have moments where the difficulty spikes a TON. Soulsborne overall harder for sure, the difficulty spikes are relatively comparable however. I feel the main difference in difficulty from Dark Souls to any difficult 2D game is just that, it's 2D. I definitely found this harder than Dark Souls, though. The Hollow Soldier Armor is a chest armor piece in Dark Souls. Dark Souls / Bloodborne is consistently more difficult than Hollow Knight, but HK does have moments where the difficulty spikes a TON. Hollow Knight is a 2D adventure/ Metroidvania game for PC, Mac, Linux, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One! Hollow Knight is a very challenging game overall, and it can be downright insane towards the (optional) end-game, much more so than Dark Souls 1 ever was. HK's challenge modes (Colosseum, Pantheon etc.) My advice would be if you're really struggling on a particular boss, (in certain cases) you can just leave it and come back when you've upgraded your nail or found more charms. I've beaten DS3 and played through most of DS1. Apr 8, 2020 121. Can't say I found Hornet difficult at all though. Players are no longer able to summon others into their world ; Players can no longer be … It is part of the Hollow Soldier Set. For whatever reason, I can do this far faster and easier in Hollow Knight. The hand-drawn 2D Metroidvania Hollow Knight takes after the Dark Souls franchise in more ways than one. Those details are one of my … The main reason you're finding HK harder is because everything you've learned in DS is different than in HK. It does definitely ask for different things like reflexes though. There were definitely instances where I felt that this game was a lot harder. It's definitely different for everyone. Entomophilia — Hollow Knight beats Metroid, Dark Souls at their own brutal game Harsh restrictions, subtle lessons make this platformer an excellent teacher. The timing and stamina required can be pretty nuts. You're rarely all that challenged or threatened during the levels in Hollow Knight, it's mostly the tougher boss battles that can push you, whereas in Dark Souls you're generally under serious threat of dying … Tldr; Soulsborne overall harder on average, but the hardest parts of Hollow Knight are still very very hard. It is a means to an end, not an end in itself. Also each game kind of tests different skills so your perceived difficulty will depend on skills you bring to the table. This is a player-created Build for Dark souls 3.. I think Dark Souls is still the hardest between both games, not for much but still, i have more hard times in DS. Orphan of Kos took me 30+ tries, Nightking Grimm took me 30+ tries. I think that sums up the biggest difference, bosses that took me several tens of tries in Hollow Knight are a little more learnable by comparison. If I had had to scour the entire map to find it on my own, I would've gotten frustrated and lost interest. If you're familiar with another 2d game like Binding of Isaac, then those skills can also translate into HK. Harder at its peak imo. Mutant signs a deal with the Devil and now Mutant has to be Agent 47 up in here and fuck up all these bosses to save the world! Hollow knight has really good bosses so far. Two-hand to execute special sword techniques. It's entirely subjective to the person playing if they'll have an easy or hard time and if they can play adaptively to suit the environment. Like Dark Souls, it's important to keep your weapons and abilities upgraded, otherwise fights become these impossible stamina battles. I think HK's bosses also have a faster time to kill than Souls bosses, so facetanking is actually sometimes viable, which means you don't always have to actually learn to evade the bosses and fight them as intended. Top Bottom. Press J to jump to the feed. Lastly, I do want to note that you are asking for a comparison of one game to a series so people will have more to talk about in terms of the Souls series than HK, BUT that doesn’t mean HK isn’t a great game. Mastering the controls though. Bestowed to a proper Mirrah knight long ago. It’s crafted using the Soul of the Rotted Greatwood. Press J to jump to the feed. 1. Yes. Dark Souls and Berserk reference. Hollow or Hollowing in Dark Souls and Dark Souls Remastered refers to a degenerative state that eventually leads to complete madness. I found HK similarly difficulty at its peak, a little easier on average though. :P. So far I'm finding Hollow Knight more challenging than Dark Souls 1, though there are some things to consider: I generally have an easier time in 3D games, for some reason. Video Games Hangouts. Hollow Knight has a much more gentle curve. 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